ivan zhao

T2 · manager / operator

Co-founded Notion, went through two major refoundings (Kyoto 2015, Cancun 2023), transformed Notion from a struggling SaaS to an AI-native productivity platform with ~1000 employees and 50-60 former founders on team via acqui-hires.

6 calls·1 name·100% bull·last heard 3 months ago·Sequoia Capital
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GPT-4 access triggered religious-experience refounding at Notion

Early GPT-4 access in Cancun was a 'full body religious experience' that convinced Zhao and co-founder Simon Notion must become AI-native despite internal skepticism, leading to a painful 1.5-year agent-building slog before model improvements unlocked revenue inflection.

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MEDivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
Notion cracks enterprise sales by pairing system-builder CRO with hunter VP
After failing to invent a novel PLG-only sales motion, Notion hired GitHub's Erica as CRO (system thinker) paired with PVesh (rah-rah hunter), respecting the classic enterprise playbook while layering AI tools for efficiency.
"our CRO is Erica's one she was CRO of GitHub before it's a system thinker right we pair Erica with our head of sale PVesh which is the rah rah like the meat eater... perfect pairi…"
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HIGHivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
GPT-4 access triggered religious-experience refounding at Notion
Early GPT-4 access in Cancun was a 'full body religious experience' that convinced Zhao and co-founder Simon Notion must become AI-native despite internal skepticism, leading to a painful 1.5-year agent-building slog before model improvements unlocked revenue inflection.
"GBD4 is a religious experience for me. It's like holy It's a it's a full body religious experience. Like you have to do something with this. This is what change everything."
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HIGHivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
Notion CEO details AI-first refounding: brewing beer not building bridges
Ivan Zhao argues building with LLMs requires a fundamental shift from deterministic 'bridge-building' to probabilistic 'beer-brewing' product development, forcing Notion to merge design/engineering/PM roles, hire for agency/taste over experience, and restructure marketing/sales around speed and AI-native workflows.
"building classic software is like engineer bridge if you can design it you usually can build it fairly predictable... building with language model back then and somewhat still is…"
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MEDivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
Notion eliminates CMO role, splits marketing into storytelling and demand gen
Notion abolished its CMO organization, replacing it with two decentralized units: storytelling (embedded with product for rapid shipping) and demand gen (serving sales), arguing traditional marketing cannot keep up with AI-accelerated product cycles.
"We actually changed our marketing department. We no longer have a CMO organization... We break up our CMO organization into storytelling... which is closer to product... and the o…"
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MEDivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
Notion acquires 50-60 founders via acqui-hires to prevent calcification
Notion intentionally acqui-hires founders as 'decalcified meathead machinery' to inject entrepreneurial energy, giving them platform leverage to pursue their original domains (e.g., enterprise search, AMO) without fighting for product-market fit.
"We intentionally do a lot of acquisitions. We have 50 60 founders at notion... founders are are kind of this kind of like little decalcified meatthead machinery just trying to bre…"
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HIGHivan zhao·Sequoia Capital·3 months ago· position
Notion adopts barbell hiring: junior ICs + senior architects, cuts middle
Notion shifted hiring to a barbell of very junior ICs (high agency/curiosity) and senior architects who provide taste and manage AI-augmented teams, de-emphasizing mid-level experience as LLMs commoditize coding capability.
"we're hired for much younger people okay internally we're call like IC early out of school IC... the shape it's not it's more like the barbell barbell shape right because the seni…"
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