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ryan smith

T2 · manager / operator

Ryan Smith co-founded Qualtrics in 2002, bootstrapped to $36M revenue, raised Series A from Sequoia/Accel in 2012, took company public in 2018, sold to SAP for $8B in 2019, spun out and re-IPOed in 2021, then took private again with Silver Lake. Now runs $1B Halo Fund investing at intersection of sports, entertainment, and AI applications. Owns Utah Jazz NBA team.

10 calls·10 names·80% bull·last heard 3 months ago·Kleiner Perkins
track recordleaderboard →
hit rate
100%
avg alpha
+59.0pp
scored
3

top calls

best measured alpha vs SPY · one per company
1st+109.5pp vs SPY
$TEAMAtlassian

Atlassian dropped from $140B to $18B market cap on AI fear; Mike Cannon-Brookes is a beast who knows scale better than any AI founder

Public markets irrationally punished Atlassian on AI disruption fears despite $7B revenue and $2B cash flow; Mike Cannon-Brookes is an elite operator who will navigate the AI transition better than new entrants because he knows scale and has resources.

Kleiner Perkins2026-06episode →
2nd+35.6pp vs SPY
$NOWServiceNow

Bill McDermott at ServiceNow is an execution freak; never bet against him — he'll reboot from ground up with two-year head start

McDermott is one of the best CEOs ever; incumbents like ServiceNow are watching AI disruption closely and have the resources and hunger to reboot faster than first-time founders because they've seen cycles before.

Kleiner Perkins2026-06episode →
3rd+31.8pp vs SPY
$SAPSAP

SAP acquired Qualtrics for $8B to own the CMO after owning the CIO; Bill McDermott viewed Ryan as founder blood for customer space

SAP's strategy was to acquire Qualtrics to expand from CIO ownership to CMO ownership in the customer experience space; McDermott saw Ryan as younger founder version to drive this, and the deal happened mid-IPO roadshow when SAP board approved on a Sunday.

Kleiner Perkins2026-06episode →

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$SAP
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SAP
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
SAP acquired Qualtrics for $8B to own the CMO after owning the CIO; Bill McDermott viewed Ryan as founder blood for customer space
SAP's strategy was to acquire Qualtrics to expand from CIO ownership to CMO ownership in the customer experience space; McDermott saw Ryan as younger founder version to drive this, and the deal happened mid-IPO roadshow when SAP board approved on a Sunday.
"They were like trying to really go off and almost like I wouldn't say go after CRM, but like go go go in the the customer space really, you know, own and the way they think about…"
37:00
$NOW
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ServiceNow
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Bill McDermott at ServiceNow is an execution freak; never bet against him — he'll reboot from ground up with two-year head start
McDermott is one of the best CEOs ever; incumbents like ServiceNow are watching AI disruption closely and have the resources and hunger to reboot faster than first-time founders because they've seen cycles before.
"I would never bet against Bill McDermott at Service Now ever. Bill's going to love this... if the only thing they've got to do is reboot from the ground up, but these guys have a…"
17:35
$CRM
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Salesforce
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Salesforce growth model is pure math: 20% growth requires 20% more sales reps or 2x productivity; Benioff acquires or hires
At scale, B2B software growth reduces to sales capacity math — either add reps or double productivity; AI tools may finally break this constraint by raising engineer/sales productivity from 15 to 50 points per game.
"If you look at the growth of Salesforce, it's been pretty straightforward. or like Benny off either acquires or something or if he wants to grow at 20% he's got to increase the sa…"
2:03
$QUALTRICS
Qualtrics
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith· position
Ryan Smith details Qualtrics valuation discipline: priced Series A at $2.5B vs $4B offers, IPOed at 30x after SAP acquisition
Smith emphasizes pricing rounds below maximum to avoid cap table bombs; Qualtrics raised at 25x, IPOed at 30x while publics traded at 15x, then dropped to $7B market cap despite hitting every quarter — proving valuation discipline matters more than peak pricing.
"Every single time we raised money, we had the ability to go at least 40% higher. We sold at like 25x. We IPOed two years later out of SAP at like 30x. We hit every single quarter…"
0:00
$TEAM
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Atlassian
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Atlassian dropped from $140B to $18B market cap on AI fear; Mike Cannon-Brookes is a beast who knows scale better than any AI founder
Public markets irrationally punished Atlassian on AI disruption fears despite $7B revenue and $2B cash flow; Mike Cannon-Brookes is an elite operator who will navigate the AI transition better than new entrants because he knows scale and has resources.
"I would put Mike Cannon Brooks up against any freaking AI founder on the planet. He's an engineer. He is a business person. Like holy cow he knows how to run scale. So the public…"
10:35
$SILVER-LAKE
Silver Lake
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Egon Durban (Silver Lake) led Qualtrics take-private from SAP; only firm with Dell/VMware experience for complex carve-outs
Silver Lake's unique expertise in complex public-to-private carve-outs (Dell, VMware) made them the only partner capable of spinning Qualtrics out of SAP; Egon Durban drove the process and brought operational discipline.
"Egon Duran absolute beast came in and was like hey you know he's like this is cool. Um got into SAP and you know we're a year and a half in. Um they owned all the stock so there w…"
56:30
$MSFT
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Microsoft
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Microsoft using balance sheet monopolistically: buying revenue not companies, outspending SaaS rivals like Dodgers in baseball
Hyperscalers are deploying balance sheets as competitive moats — not acquiring companies but using capital to separate on revenue, creating structural advantage that new entrants cannot match; during COVID Microsoft fought every SaaS CEO simultaneously.
"They're basically buying not companies. They're buying they're they're almost using that as a monopolistic practice where we're using our balance sheet to separate from a revenue…"
16:15
$HALO-FUND
Halo Fund
HIGHryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith· position
Ryan Smith's $1B Halo Fund deployed $300M in 9 months across 8 bets at intersection of experience (F1, WME, Filevine)
Halo Fund targets founders who can navigate multi-cycle reinvention (like Qualtrics' four rebirths); invests at intersection of sports, entertainment, and AI applications where experience moats compound; eight bets placed in first nine months.
"We're nine months in. We placed $300 million and um we made eight bets and it's at the intersection of experience which is anywhere from F1 to WME Endeavor to Filevine on the lega…"
61:50
$ANTHROPIC
Anthropic
MEDryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith
Anthropic grew from $1B to $9B revenue — lab-level growth sets the pace for AI application layer expectations
Frontier model companies are achieving unprecedented revenue scale (1x to 9x in short period), creating a growth benchmark that distorts private market valuations for application-layer AI companies trying to match that velocity.
"Let's just work backwards from where this growth is like primarily starting from which is the labs. Like Anthropic grew from 1 to9 billion dollars."
10:19
$FILEVINE
Filevine
MEDryan smith·Kleiner Perkins·3 months ago·The Startup Advice AI Founders Need Right Now | Qualtrics co-founder Ryan Smith· position
Filevine (legal AI) hitting numbers with insane growth; Ryan Smith invested via Halo Fund, sees same model as Qualtrics 2014 customer success
Filevine is executing the high-touch customer success model Qualtrics pioneered in 2014 — pairing elite human consultants with AI product — which creates stickiness at enterprise scale; Ryan invested and advises founder on the long path to IPO.
"I'm invested in one Filevine. I'm watching them hit their numbers in December and it's it's a Harvey competitor... my conversation with the founder is very much, okay, I get all o…"
52:35
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AI Applicationstailwind
AI tools raising engineer productivity from 15 to 50 points; coming next for sales, legal, support — CIOs face three-way process decision
AI is demonstrably increasing engineering output 3-4x; same productivity leap is coming to sales, legal, and support. CIOs must choose: double down on current processes, wait for AI-native tools, or rip and replace — but organizational capacity for simultaneous change is impossible.
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AI Bubble / Capex Debaterisk
Private AI at 25x vs public tech at 3.5x; only 8 private tech exits >$8B since 2018 means IPO is only path — race is 12 rounds, not 1
Massive valuation dislocation between private AI (25x) and public markets (3.5x) creates inevitable reckoning; with M&A effectively closed (only 8 large exits since 2018), nearly all private AI companies must IPO. The competitive race will last 12 rounds — hyperscalers using balance sheets, incumbents rebooting, new entrants burning cap tables.
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Venture Capitalheadwind
Cap table bombs: raising at 12x vs 2.5x puts gun to founder's head; first VC dollar starts the exit clock — Stripe, Palantir found liquidity without IPO
Founders raising at extreme multiples (12x vs reasonable 2.5x) create growth mandates they cannot hit, forcing bad decisions. The moment you take venture money, you're on the exit track — whether via IPO, M&A, or secondary liquidity (Stripe, Palantir model). Cap table discipline is survival.
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Enterprise Softwaretailwind
Go-to-market is the only moat that mattered for Qualtrics' re-IPO; SAP kept it private because GTM gave public markets confidence
When Qualtrics spun from SAP, the sole factor enabling a $20B+ public valuation was its intact go-to-market engine — not technology. Enterprise buyers (Delta, Yum, universities) require $10M+ deals with CIO approval, implementation, and ongoing support; AI-native companies underestimating this will fail at scale.
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AI Economics & Business Modelstailwind
Every process will be attacked by AI — legal, sales, accounting, engineering; public companies 25% bloated from overhiring for risk avoidance
AI automation targets every organizational process. Public companies systematically overhire (25% bloat) because underhiring risk exceeds overhiring cost; private companies and AI-native entrants can operate leaner. CIOs are actively evaluating which processes to automate vs maintain vs replace.