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joe lonsdale

T3 · host / generalist

Joe Lonsdale hosts American Optimists. He co-founded Palantir Technologies and founded venture firm 8VC. He previously hired Scott Wu at an early company and references his experience building Palantir's forward-deployed engineer model and government technology partnerships.

47 calls·22 names·85% bull·last heard last month·Bloomberg Tech+1
track recordleaderboard →
hit rate
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avg alpha
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top calls

highest conviction · one per company
1sthigh conviction
$GENERALISTGeneralistposition

Lonsdale backs Generalist as robotics inflection arrives in late 2020s not 2030s

Joe Lonsdale, as investor and partner, states Generalist's progress proves general-purpose robotics will matter 'really, really soon' — within the next couple years — not the 2030s as previously thought.

Joe Lonsdale2026-08episode →
2ndhigh conviction
$EPIRUSEpirusposition

Epirus high-power microwave scales cheaply to defeat drone swarms at borders and events

Epirus's directed energy (high-power microwave) technology can take down drone swarms affordably at scale, now critical for protecting major events and borders as drone costs plummeted due to Ukraine war production.

Joe Lonsdale2026-07episode →
3rdhigh conviction
$ANDURILAndurilposition

Anduril co-building next-gen C2 systems with Palantir for command and control

Anduril is working with Palantir on new command and control (C2) systems that are critical for national defense, representing the commercial-first approach the Pentagon now prioritizes.

Joe Lonsdale2026-07episode →

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recurring themes

  • Advanced Manufacturing3
  • AI Applications3
  • Venture Capital3
  • AI Bubble / Capex Debate2
  • AI Drug Discovery2
47 total
$SPCX
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SpaceX
HIGHjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026· position
Lonsdale: 8VC big investor in xAI, very bullish, holding long-term; Musk's venture could exceed global economy
8VC is a significant investor in xAI, remains very bullish and plans to hold long-term, believing Elon Musk's assertion that xAI could become larger than the entire global economy.
"WE ARE BIG INVESTORS IN XAI, SPACEX, HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. VERY BULLISH ON THAT, HOLDING ONTO THAT FOR A LONG TIME. ELON IS RIGHT, IT COULD BE BIGGER THAN THE ECONOMY OF T…"
41:08
$SPCX
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SpaceX
HIGHjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026· position
Lonsdale: 8VC big investor in SpaceX, very bullish, holding long-term
8VC is a major investor in SpaceX, remains very bullish and plans to hold long-term.
"WE ARE BIG INVESTORS IN XAI, SPACEX, HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. VERY BULLISH ON THAT, HOLDING ONTO THAT FOR A LONG TIME."
41:08
$COGNITION
Cognition
MEDjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026
Lonsdale: Cognition is one of the most important AI companies, three funding rounds in a year since 8VC investment
Cognition, an AI company in 8VC's portfolio, has raised three rounds in the past year and is considered one of the most important AI companies.
"WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO WORK WITH PALMER LUCKY, A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE WORKING VERY WELL IN OUR PORTFOLIO, BOTH IN DEFENSE, AI. COGNITION LAST YEAR, ONE THE MOST IMPORTANT…"
39:25
$SARONIC
Saronic
HIGHjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026· position
Lonsdale: Saronic is 8VC's largest co-founded position, building autonomous drones with ex-Tesla talent in Austin
Saronic, co-founded by 8VC, has built a top-tier team in Austin including ex-Tesla engineers, and its autonomous drones (Corsairs) are demonstrating critical defense capabilities, making it one of the most important U.S. defense companies.
"CENTCOM JUST PUT THIS OUT. I CAN ONLY SAY WHAT IS PUBLIC. THEY SAID THERE WERE THREE CORSAIRS INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK. THESE ARE UNMANNED DRONES. THESE WERE THE SAME ONES THAT SAVE…"
44:07
$PLTR
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Palantir
HIGHjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026
Lonsdale: Palantir valuation surged 10x to $300B+ on AI wave, portfolio companies growing 5-10x annually
Palantir's valuation exploded from $30-40B to over $300B due to AI, and 8VC portfolio companies are growing 5-10x per year, reflecting an unprecedented industrial revolution.
"WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOST EXCITING INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION IN A LONG TIME IN THE UNITED STATES. WE'VE HAD OUR BEST COUPLE OF YEARS EVER AT THE FIRM. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS…"
37:24
$ANDURIL
Anduril
MEDjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026· position
Lonsdale: 8VC not planning to exit Anduril or Saronic despite ability to sell
8VC holds significant positions in Anduril and Saronic but does not plan to exit these defense investments despite liquidity opportunities.
"I DON'T PLAN ON EXITING OUR VERY BEST DEFENSE POSITIONS FOR THE MOST PART. THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU COULD EXIT, SELL THE ENTIRE AND A ROLL, SARONIC POSITION, BUT WE WILL NOT DO T…"
41:35
$HELSING
Helsing
LOWjoe lonsdale·Bloomberg Tech·2 months ago·AI Selloff, Apple vs. OpenAI & the Future of Defense Tech | Bloomberg Tech 7/13/2026
Lonsdale: 8VC fans of Helsing, early investor Jeannette now at GC
8VC is positive on European defense tech company Helsing, noting an early investor (Jeannette) who is now at General Catalyst.
"MY GOOD FRIEND JEANETTE WAS AN EARLY INVESTOR THERE BEFORE SHE WAS AT GC. WE ARE FANS OF THEM."
43:22
$GALVION
Galvion
MEDjoe lonsdale·Joe Lonsdale·2 months ago·America’s $700 Billion Defense Tech Rebuild· position
Galvion tackling contested logistics for remote Pacific operations
Galvion is working on contested logistics — sustaining troops and weapons in remote environments far from bases — which is a designated critical technology area for potential Pacific conflict.
"contested logistics was one of the other six that we have companies like Galvion working on that."
12:15
$EPIRUS
Epirus
HIGHjoe lonsdale·Joe Lonsdale·2 months ago·America’s $700 Billion Defense Tech Rebuild· position
Epirus high-power microwave scales cheaply to defeat drone swarms at borders and events
Epirus's directed energy (high-power microwave) technology can take down drone swarms affordably at scale, now critical for protecting major events and borders as drone costs plummeted due to Ukraine war production.
"You can take them down with high-power microwave like Epirus. You can take them down with lasers. ... when I helped my friend start Epirus, that's what I was thinking actually is…"
16:28
$SPCX
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SpaceX
LOWjoe lonsdale·Joe Lonsdale·2 months ago·America’s $700 Billion Defense Tech Rebuild
xAI models easier to weaponize for exploit generation than Claude
Different frontier models have different safety gating; xAI models are reportedly easier to coax into generating exploits compared to Anthropic's Claude, though all models leapfrog rapidly.
"Some other models will I've heard XAI Although obviously it won't do certain things, it's easier to get to do things."
34:14
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Robotics & Physical AItailwind
Scaling laws hit robotics: GPT-3 moment arrives for physical world
Foundation models for robotics are entering a GPT-3 era where pre-training on massive diverse physical interaction data yields emergent capabilities like ambidexterity and tool generalization, with reliability crossing 99% on one hour of task data — enabling commercial deployment in late 2020s not 2030s.
9
Enterprise AI Adoptiontailwind
Model capabilities far exceed enterprise absorption capacity; diffusion is the bottleneck
Current LLMs already enable economic revolution if development stopped today; the constraint is organizational ability to provide context, restructure workflows, and reform institutions (e.g., legal billing models) — a multi-year diffusion process creating sustained tailwinds for implementation-focused companies.
8
AI Infrastructuretailwind
Six-tier AI stack framework: energy → chips → data centers → LLMs → software infra → apps
The AI investment landscape maps to a six-layer stack where value accrues differently across layers; 8VC focuses on Level 5 (apps) while acknowledging massive capex at Levels 0-2 (energy, chips, data centers) with historical parallels to industrial revolution investment rates.
8
Advanced Manufacturingtailwind
Onshoring manufacturing and defense production is a core investment theme for 8VC and Anti Fund
Joe Lonsdale and Jeff Woo argue that bringing 'atoms not bits' manufacturing back to the US — exemplified by Elon Musk's lead and companies like Saronic — is critical for national security, job creation, and industrial resilience, and they are actively allocating capital to this theme.
8
Government Technologytailwind
AI-driven fraud detection transforms government program integrity
Palantir's deployment at the SBA demonstrates how AI can systematically uncover fraud networks across federal programs by integrating data ontologies, recognizing patterns, and crawling connections — creating a replicable model for government-wide waste reduction that could drive significant demand for enterprise AI platforms in the public sector.
8
AI Applicationstailwind
AI-powered fraud ontology uncovers billions in SBA pandemic loan fraud
Palantir's AI platform ingests disparate data sets to map fraud networks across PPP and 8(a) programs, identifying patterns (overseas IPs, non-citizens, pass-through schemes) that human auditors missed; model will scale government-wide.
8
AI Geopolitics & Export Controlsheadwind
Lonsdale: China systematically stealing U.S. biotech IP via patent office and talent, FDA slowness exacerbates disadvantage
China has captured over one-third of global therapeutics development by stealing U.S. IP through patent office exploitation and talent transfer, while U.S. FDA delays (700 days vs 90 days for Phase 1 trials) hinder competitive response.
8
AI Bubble / Capex Debatetailwind
AI not a bubble: Nvidia at 25x forward PE, Micron at 9x despite 250% rally
Valuation multiples for core AI beneficiaries remain reasonable (Nvidia 25x, Micron 9x forward PE) and earnings are growing rapidly; the limiting factor is enterprise adoption diffusion, not technology capability, implying sustained growth rather than speculative bubble.