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▶ 38:59 · $ANTHROPIC · Saam Motamedi: Anthropic and OpenAI are full-stack AI companies with fastest revenue growth in history
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China's Moonshot, Netflix's Slump & Greylock's $1.5B Bet | Bloomberg Tech 7/17/2026

2026-07-17 · 16 company · 20 thematic
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saam motamedi

Leads early-stage investing in AI, cybersecurity, and fintech at Greylock; backed Airbnb, Facebook, and early AI leaders like Baseten and Crust AI; currently deploying Fund XVIII across model, infrastructure, and application layers.

helena wang

Covers streaming and consumer internet equities; holds a buy rating on Netflix and emphasizes engagement trends over near-term guidance.

ryan

Host of the podcast (Long Strange Trip). Previously worked at PTC in the 1990s. Built HubSpot through 'founder mode' flat organization. Experimented with eliminating org charts/titles 4 years in but reverted due to lack of intelligence systems. Now exploring 'Dorsey mode' AI-centered organization.

tasos

Analyzes technology sector bond performance and hyperscaler debt issuance trends for Bloomberg.

mandeep singh

Mandeep Singh covers tech infrastructure and AI capex for Bloomberg Intelligence, analyzing hyperscaler spending and custom silicon.

anthony hughes

Tracks post-IPO performance of major listings like SpaceX and broader IPO market trends for Bloomberg.

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“I THINK BOTH ANTHROPIC AND OPENAI HAVE MULTIPLE MODES. THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT REVENUES. THESE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING COMPANIES IN HUMAN HISTORY. THE REVENUES ARE NOT JUST ON THE BACK OF THE MODELS BUT FIRST PARTY PRODUCTS. THE LAST TIME I…”
—saam motamedi
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Tasos: 79% of tech bonds since 2025 wider spreads, negative returns — investors fleeing limited upside/significant downside
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$NFLX···bullish· medium· poshelena wang
Helena Wang: Netflix buy on pullback — healthy fundamentals but content slate weaker than 2025
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$NFLX···bullish· medium· poshelena wang
Phillip Securities' Helena Wang stays bullish on Netflix pullback as buying opportunity
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$GOOGL···bearish· mediummandeep singh
Mandeep Singh: Google Gemini delayed, missed coding boat to OpenAI and Anthropic
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$SPCX···neutral· mediumanthony hughes
Anthony Hughes: SpaceX trading 3% below IPO price post-Starship failure; long-term Tesla-like proposition
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$AAPL···bullish· mediumryan
Ryan: Apple as AI safe haven — up 20% in weeks on no capex risk, foldable iPhone and agentic Siri coming
Apple's lack of aggressive AI capex has become an asset as hyperscaler ROI questions mount; stock benefiting as safe haven with unique AI path, foldable iPhone and agentic Siri dr…
$SOX···bearish· mediumryan
Ryan: Semiconductor index headed for bear market — peak earnings priced in, hyperscaler capex pullback risk
Real reversal in chip momentum; concerns about index up nearly double YTD but profit-taking and hyperscaler ROI questions feeding into chips; if hyperscalers pull back on AI spend…
$NVDA···bearish· mediumryan
Ryan sees Nvidia capex risk as chip space enters bear market on hyperscaler ROI doubts
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$GREYLOCKbullish· high· possaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Greylock raises $1.5B Fund 18 for early-stage AI, cybersecurity, fintech across three layers
Fund 18 targets model layer (new data domains), infrastructure layer (entire stack rewritten around agents, agent cloud gate), and application layer (proliferation now that long-r…
$CRESTA-AIbullish· mediumsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Cresta AI leads service AI — Marriott calls handled by Cresta agents
Cresta AI is a leader in service AI with real production deployment handling Marriott customer calls; early example of AI application layer value creation.
$BASETENbullish· mediumsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Baseten backed in 2019, now serving leading AI application companies as infrastructure layer
Early investment in Baseten (2019) positioned Greylock for AI infrastructure wave; company now serves leading application companies and represents infrastructure layer that will b…
$RESOLVE-AIbullish· mediumsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Resolve AI agentic on-call engineers handling incidents for Coinbase, DoorDash, Fireworks
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$MOONSHOT-AIneutral· mediumsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Moonshot Kimi K3 impressive but market reaction premature; token cost focus misses task cost reality
Kimi K3 shows interesting efficiency techniques but uses more tokens per task than OpenAI/Anthropic models; benchmarks are imperfect and real-world performance needs time to perco…
$ANTHROPICbullish· highsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi: Anthropic and OpenAI are full-stack AI companies with fastest revenue growth in history
Anthropic and OpenAI have significant revenues from first-party products (Claude Code, Claude Tag) not just model APIs; they are full-stack companies with multiple modes, making p…
$OPENAIbullish· mediumsaam motamedi
Saam Motamedi calls OpenAI a full-stack AI leader with major product revenue and pipeline
OpenAI, alongside Anthropic, operates as a full-stack AI company with significant revenues from first-party products and significant new model releases coming in the next months.
$NFLX···bearish· mediummandeep singh
Mandeep Singh warns Netflix thesis breaks without revenue re-acceleration
Revenue growth has decelerated from 16% to 14% to 11.7% guidance; the narrative is anchored to mid-teens gains, and without a pickup in engagement and subscriber growth it will be…