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La fábrica de billonarios: Private Equity | Inteligencia artificial, REAL ESTATE... | TERTULIA #2

2025-10-29 · 9 company · 8 thematic

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luis martín caviedes

Philosopher-turned-investor with 300+ startup investments; shifted from venture to private equity, citing leverage and time advantages. Views PE as 'billionaire factory' vs VC's long gestation.

luis faus

Co-founded Ulex, a legal AI platform sold for over $1B; now invests in alternatives and real estate. Sees US tax advantages (1031 exchanges) as structural edge for real estate.

jesús monleón

Host of SeedRocket's 4Founders podcast; runs Go Trendier (a secondhand fashion marketplace) and 4Founders; actively applies AI learnings from guests to his own companies.

enrique domínguez

Serial entrepreneur: built hotel chain Gall Rooms to 2,500 rooms (€20M→€44M revenue) via bootstrapped aggregation model. Founded Adopta un Buey, a pre-sale platform financing 8-14 year ox raising. Background in internet businesses. From Teruel family.

marek fodor

Serial entrepreneur (Atrapalo), SeedRocket partner, co-investor with Marc Ferran and Jesús Moleón. Visited the farm with his children for harvest work experience.

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