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▶ 9:26 · $FIREWORKS-AI · Insight Partners' Murdock backs Fireworks AI over Baseten on capital efficiency
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The AI Bubble WILL Burst: Half the Neoclouds WILL Die | Jerry Murdock

2026-08-22 · 35 company · 36 thematic
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jerry murdock

Jerry Murdock founded Insight Partners, which manages over $90B. He has invested across 25 years of technology cycles and is an active investor in AI infrastructure companies like Fireworks, E2B, Legora, and Mercor.

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“I'd bet on fireworks over Baseten times better business in my opinion because they're more capital efficient. Capital efficiency and their willingness to to make profits on business.”
—jerry murdock
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$CRWV···bearish· highjerry murdock
CoreWeave among neoclouds likely to consolidate; half will die in 36 months
Neocloud sector will see massive shakeout: at least 50% disappear within 36 months, accelerated by any credit dislocation; only 1-2 will dominate.
$FIREWORKS-AIbullish· high· posjerry murdock
Insight Partners' Murdock backs Fireworks AI over Baseten on capital efficiency
Fireworks AI is 10x better business than Baseten due to superior capital efficiency and willingness to generate profits rather than just revenue growth.
$BASETENbearish· mediumjerry murdock
Baseten criticized for low capital efficiency vs Fireworks AI
Baseten raises at same valuation as Fireworks but lacks profit focus; Cursor contract gave revenue/scale but minimal earnings, leaving them vulnerable in a credit crunch.
$PALANTIR···bullish· mediumjerry murdock
Palantir benefits from enterprise fear of frontier model data capture
Enterprises fear frontier models (OpenAI/Anthropic) will compete with them using their data; Palantir offers full-stack infrastructure alternative keeping data behind firewall.
$DOCKERbullish· mediumjerry murdock
Docker pivots to sandboxes acknowledging containers aren't safe for AI agents
Docker recognized containers aren't safe for AI agents and successfully launched Docker sandboxes, positioning alongside E2B as leader in sandbox infrastructure.
$CRWV···bearish· medium· posjerry murdock
CoreWeave grouped with neoclouds facing high mortality risk
CoreWeave is a neocloud player; Jerry expects at least half of neoclouds to disappear within 36 months, implying significant risk for undifferentiated providers.
$E2Bbullish· mediumjerry murdock
E2B and Docker lead sandbox infrastructure critical for AI agent security
Sandbox infrastructure is the most underestimated need in AI security; E2B and Docker are the two best at understanding how agents interact with tools and optimizing sandbox behav…
$LEGORAneutral· medium· posjerry murdock
Insight Partners invested in Legora legal AI; warns of Harvey competition risk
Legora and Harvey are well-funded legal AI competitors; a security breach at either could destroy both, creating opportunity for specialized niche players like Get Dynasty in trus…
$HARVEYbearish· mediumjerry murdock
Harvey legal AI vulnerable to security breach alongside Legora
Harvey and Legora's intense competition makes both vulnerable to security leaks; first breach will wreck market opportunity for both since they likely share similar vulnerabilitie…
$GET-DYNASTYbullish· lowjerry murdock
Get Dynasty exemplifies Thiel's niche-first strategy in trust law
Specialized legal AI players like Get Dynasty in trust law follow Peter Thiel's advice to dominate a niche before expanding, unlike broad legal AI platforms.
$ANTHROPICbullish· mediumjerry murdock
Anthropic and OpenAI mega-rounds at $100-150B may be cheap
Frontier model companies' massive funding rounds at $100-150B valuations might actually be inexpensive given their unprecedented growth trajectory and strategic importance.
$OPENAIbullish· mediumjerry murdock
OpenAI mega-rounds potentially cheap despite $150B valuation
OpenAI's massive funding rounds at $150B valuation may be justified given extraordinary historical growth; Gavin Baker and others likely view them as cheap.
$OPENROUTERbearish· highjerry murdock
OpenRouter's 5% inference markup unsustainable as exchanges emerge
OpenRouter's model routing layer charges 5% markup on inference which is excessive; blockchain-based inference exchanges will disrupt this by enabling direct model access, making…
$AKI-NAKIbullish· mediumjerry murdock
Aki Naki launches Dodex inference exchange to disrupt model routing layer
Model routing layer (e.g., OpenRouter's 5% markup) will be disrupted by blockchain-based inference exchanges like Aki Naki's Dodex that allow direct inference purchasing without m…
$VENICE-IObullish· lowjerry murdock
Venice IO building inference exchange to compete with OpenRouter
Venice IO is among several companies building inference exchanges that will disrupt the model routing layer by eliminating the 5% markup charged by OpenRouter.
$CURSORneutral· mediumjerry murdock
Cursor's $60B potential sale in 4 years is abnormal not new norm
Cursor's rapid scale to potential $60B exit resulted from smart pivot and Elon Musk's desperation for XAI; such abnormal liquidity events shouldn't set venture expectations.
$E2Bbullish· high· posjerry murdock
Insight Partners invested in E2B; founder Vnan shows all-in commitment
E2B founder Vnan demonstrates the rare all-in founder commitment that defines outsized outcomes; Khosla and Vinod Khosla validate him as exceptional CEO.
$OPENROUTERbearish· mediumjerry murdock
Open Router's 5% markup model deemed unsustainable
Open Router charges a 5% markup for model inference, but this model is unsustainable as upcoming exchanges will eliminate the fee, eroding its revenue.
$AIRTABLEbearish· highjerry murdock
Airtable and SaaS peers face obsolescence without thoughtful AI strategy in 2 years
SaaS companies at $4-500M valuation without integrated AI strategy and product will have no viable exit or growth path within two years as co-work/agentic AI disrupts traditional…
$SAFE-SUPERINTELLIGENCEneutral· lowjerry murdock
SSI's $30B continuous learning bet is uninvestable without founder trust
Jerry passes on Ilia Sutskever's SSI despite continuous learning thesis because he only invests in model companies with personal founder relationships.
$MERCORbullish· high· posjerry murdock
Insight Partners invested in Mercor; specialized enterprise data TAM expansion
Mercor's data acquisition/cleaning expertise will expand from selling to frontier models to selling specialized data to enterprises building custom models, massively expanding TAM…
$ANTHROPICbearish· lowjerry murdock
Anthropic likely exits before OpenAI in frontier model race
Jerry believes Anthropic will 'go out first' among frontier model companies, though reasoning is not deeply elaborated.
$NVDA···bullish· highjerry murdock
Nvidia to exceed $10T market cap in 5 years despite current plateau
Nvidia will surpass $10T market cap within 5 years; current flat stock reflects market plateau and circular hyperscaler transactions obfuscating real demand, not fundamental weakn…
$GOOGL···bullish· mediumjerry murdock
Google long-term hold supported by massive consumer base stability
Google's 2B+ user consumer business acts as a stabilizer giving time to catch up on AI; all Mag 7 will be trillion-dollar companies for at least a decade.
$META···neutral· mediumjerry murdock
Meta long-term hold but may become boring utility like telephone company
Meta's 2B+ user base provides stability for long-term holding, but risk is it becomes a boring dividend-paying utility like AT&T rather than a growth stock.
$MSFT···bullish· highjerry murdock
Microsoft enterprise communication moat ensures long-term value despite weak AI products
Microsoft controls global enterprise communication (Exchange/Teams) which is an immutable money machine; consumer stickiness provides stability even with mediocre AI products.
$AAPL···neutral· mediumjerry murdock
Apple AI strategy uncertain; risk if merely consuming not innovating
Apple's AI approach is opaque; if they are merely consuming frontier models (e.g., heavy Claude Code user) without innovation, they face trouble, but watchful observation could yi…
$INSIGHT-PARTNERSbullish· high· posjerry murdock
Insight Partners' small PE portfolio positions it best for financial dislocation
Insight Partners' minimal PE exposure and intelligent capital deployment make it best positioned among venture/PE firms to survive a credit market dislocation that will hammer lev…
$MENLO-VENTURESbullish· mediumjerry murdock
Menlo Ventures' early Anthropic investment positions it for outsized AI returns
Menlo Ventures' early Anthropic investment (early but not too early) will generate exceptional returns in the AI transition.
$BENCHMARKbullish· mediumjerry murdock
Benchmark excels in AI infrastructure despite missing frontier model rounds
Benchmark missed Anthropic and OpenAI but built exceptional portfolio in AI infrastructure (e.g., Factory) demonstrating strong thesis-driven investing beyond frontier models.
$BTC···bearish· highjerry murdock
Bitcoin at risk of quantum hacking within 2-4 years; driven by greed not utility
Bitcoin faces existential quantum hacking risk within 2-4 years per IBM, Google, and Tom Lee; its value proposition is primarily greed-driven speculation rather than utility.
$ETH···bullish· mediumjerry murdock
Ethereum positioned for real blockchain utility in agent payments and tokenization
Ethereum alongside Solana will benefit as blockchain transitions from speculation to utility in inference payments, tokenized equities, and agent payment rails.
$SOL···bullish· mediumjerry murdock
Solana and Ethereum have long-term potential for blockchain utility beyond greed
Solana and Ethereum show long-term potential as blockchain finds true utility in agent payments, inference exchanges, and tokenized stocks, moving beyond speculative greed.
$KHOSLA-VENTURESbullish· highjerry murdock
Khosla Ventures crushing AI with Vinod Khosla's CEO picking prowess
Khosla Ventures' portfolio (including AI companies backed by Vinod Khosla's exceptional CEO selection) will dominate AI returns; Khosla, Menlo, and Benchmark are the top three AI-…
$HOOD···bullish· lowjerry murdock
Robinhood Chain demonstrates blockchain utility with $1B revenue
Robinhood's blockchain initiative (Robinhood Chain) shows real utility innovation, reportedly generating ~$1B revenue through tokenized stocks and payment rails.