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Oracle’s Cloud Growth; Debate Around AI Risks

2026-09-11 · 8 company · 40 thematic
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lior susan

VC founder focused on physical AI — robotics, manufacturing, defense, semiconductors, energy; funds show double-digit DPI; advocates for US reindustrialization via AI automation.

neil susan

Founded Eclipse 11 years ago to invest in physical world innovation (manufacturing, semiconductors, defense, robotics); funds achieving double-digit DPI; advocates for US reindustrialization via physical AI and collaborative AI safety approach.

stefan lewinski

Sell-side analyst covering software sector; holds outperform rating on Oracle with $248 price target; identifies cracks in Adobe's freemium transition.

ed ludlow

Ed Ludlow hosts Bloomberg Tech from San Francisco, covering technology, finance, and innovation with a focus on AI, semiconductors, and venture capital.

brody ford

Covers Microsoft and enterprise software; analyzes hyperscaler capex, free cash flow dynamics, and market reactions to spending discipline.

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