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▶ 19:46 · $OPENROUTER · OpenRouter M&A process at $5-6B is a commoditization exit window before routing layer gets embedded everywhere
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Frontier Labs Threatened by Kimi? Should the US Ban Chinese Open-Source Models & Stripe Buys PayPal

2026-07-23 · 10 company · 6 thematic
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rory o'driscoll

Rory O'Driscoll is a partner at Scale Venture Partners, a late-stage venture firm. He references Scale's portfolio (Linear, DataBricks, HubSpot, Salesforce, Palantir) and fund dynamics. He previously invested in Anthropic (2021) and tracks AI infrastructure closely.

jason lemkin

Founder of SaaStr, a community and media platform for B2B software founders and executives. He is an early-stage investor and a frequent commentator on SaaS growth and go-to-market strategy.

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“Because the market's in flux. Everyone's figured out they need this. Open router like a lot of folks was was was was early and benefited from it and deserves it. ... it's something that's going to become embedded in so many vendors that if…”
—jason lemkin

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OpenAI & Anthropic Threatened by Kimi?

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$OPENROUTERneutral· mediumjason lemkin
OpenRouter M&A process at $5-6B is a commoditization exit window before routing layer gets embedded everywhere
OpenRouter's model-routing plumbing is becoming a commodity feature embedded in every platform (Databricks, Ramp, hyperscalers); selling now at a lofty multiple captures peak stra…
$FIREWORKS-AIbullish· highrory o'driscoll
Fireworks AI hits $1B+ ARR in 3.5 years with expanding margins, vertical integrating into data centers
Fireworks is the leading beneficiary of the open-weight model explosion, growing 5x to $1B+ ARR with mid-30s gross margins expanding as they eat more of the inference stack and pl…
$MERCORbullish· mediumrory o'driscoll
Mercor hits $2B ARR in data labeling as foundation model training spend dwarfs application layer revenue
Data labeling companies (Mercor $2B, Surge $3B, Handshake $1B ARR) are capturing massive revenue from foundation model training data spend, which likely exceeds the sum of all AI…
$PYPL···bullish· highrory o'driscoll
Stripe-Advent bid for PayPal at sub-10x earnings is an amazing deal if they can fix the operational mess
PayPal processes similar payment volume to Stripe (~$1.8T) but trades at 1.7x revenue and sub-10x profits; Stripe buying with Advent PE partner lets them double footprint at a dis…
$STRIPEneutral· mediumrory o'driscoll
Stripe's bold PayPal take-private with Advent doubles payment volume but brings operational nightmares
Stripe buying 1.5x its revenue size at a third of its market cap via Advent JV is a ballsy move to double market cap, but forces a pristine private company to do hard-nosed restru…
$VALAR-ATOMICSbullish· mediumrory o'driscoll
Valar Atomics raising at 3x step-up in months as next-gen nuclear progress accelerates
Valar Atomics is about to raise at a 3x valuation step-up in 4-5 months, reflecting continued progress in next-generation nuclear despite public nuclear SPACs trading wildly.
$C-SQUARE···bearish· mediumjason lemkin
C Square IPO at $3B market cap on $1B revenue growing 16% shows market not stupid — no AI boost, no multiple expansion
C Square's tepid IPO (3x revenue, 16% growth) proves the market rewards true AI acceleration, not just an AI veneer on legacy data center assets.
$MU···bearish· highrory o'driscoll
DRAM oligopoly (Micron, Samsung, SK Hynix) extracting 80% margins with 40% quarterly hikes, but brutal downside when cycle breaks
Unlike TSMC/ASML's trusted long-term supply chain, the three-player DRAM market is a commodity knife fight raising prices 40% per quarter to hit 80% operating margins, but the ine…
$CRWV···bearish· lowrory o'driscoll
CoreWeave depressed long-term as memory cost inflation squeezes GPU cloud margins
CoreWeave shares have been depressed because DRAM price hikes have doubled the cost of building GPU clusters, and market worries about their large OpenAI commitment.
$NVDA···neutral· medium· posrory o'driscoll
Nvidia range-bound until OpenAI/Anthropic growth signals next capex leg; Gavin Baker says cross-sectional valuation implies DRAM should rerate too
Nvidia's stock has been flat since the ChatGPT step-up because capex growth is decelerating from 700B to slower growth; the next move depends entirely on whether frontier model co…