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▶ 19:00 · AI Safety & Alignment · Voice AI leaders self-regulate with traceability, moderation, and detection infrastructure
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The Trillion-Dollar Industries AI Is Disrupting: Voice, Law & the End of the Billable Hour

2026-07-14 · 10 company · 8 thematic
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mati staniszewski

Mati Staniszewski founded ElevenLabs in 2022. The company built the first human-sounding text-to-speech model, reached $600M ARR in 40 months with 600 employees, and powers voice AI for enterprises (Revolut, Klarna), creators (Matthew McConaughey, James Earl Jones estate), and platforms (Fortnite, Headspace).

max junestrand

Max Junestrand founded Legora, a legal AI platform growing 50% QoQ for 7 quarters — the fastest enterprise SaaS to $100M+ ARR. Legora deploys 'legal engineers' to transform law firms like Kirkland Ellis, builds global legal data moats, and uses narrow fine-tuned models for high-volume legal tasks.

jason calacanis

Angel investor, host of This Week in Startups and co-host of the All-In podcast. An early investor in Uber, Robinhood and Calm.

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Vertical AI companies use frontier models as lead gen, not competitors
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Narrow, use-case-specific models beat general intelligence for vertical AI economics
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