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▶ 21:18 · Robotics & Physical AI · Data flywheel and full-stack hardware/software co-design create winner-take-most dynamics
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Joe Lonsdale

Ex-DeepMind Scientist Just Solved Robotic's Toughest Challenge

2026-08-24 · 3 company · 13 thematic
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joe lonsdale

Joe Lonsdale hosts American Optimists. He co-founded Palantir Technologies and founded venture firm 8VC. He previously hired Scott Wu at an early company and references his experience building Palantir's forward-deployed engineer model and government technology partnerships.

pete florence

Pete Florence is a former senior research scientist at Google DeepMind (4.5 years) and MIT PhD. He founded Generalist to build general foundation models for robotics, achieving scaling-law breakthroughs with Gen Zero (Nov) and Gen One (Apr) models showing 99%+ reliability on one hour of data.

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