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▶ 78:00 · AI Infrastructure · Memory bandwidth, not capacity, is the binding constraint for AI inference scaling
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Dwarkesh Patel

How GPT, Claude, and Gemini are actually trained and served – Reiner Pope

2026-04-29 · 4 company · 5 thematic
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dwarkesh patel

Host of the Dwarkesh Podcast, known for deeply researched long-form conversations on artificial intelligence, science, economics and history.

reiner pope

Reiner Pope is the CEO of MatX, a stealth AI chip startup. He previously worked on TPU architecture at Google. He delivers a blackboard-style lecture on transformer inference economics, covering roofline analysis, batch size optimization, MoE parallelism, scale-up networking, memory hierarchy, and training/inference compute tradeoffs.

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