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▶ 28:40 · $V · $MA · Mastercard faces same structural threat as Visa from bank-owned debit network consortium
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TBPN

Alex Hormozi in the Ultradome, China Export Controls, SK Hynix, Big Bank Comeback

2026-07-07 · 8 company · 8 thematic
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john malhone

Thiel Fellow and founder of American Turbines, building 1MW natural gas turbines for rapid deployment. Previously founded Crops Safe (farm tech software). Background in mechanics, aviation, and hardware; bets on US natural gas advantage and manufacturing automation as moat.

hussein fazal

Founder of super.com, a savings super app for everyday Americans (<$100k income) offering hotel discounts, gas/insurance/pharma savings, credit building, and cash advances. Raised $65M Series D at $1.2B valuation led by TPG. 10-year overnight success compounding performance marketing across verticals.

john nay

Founder of Norm AI (legal AI agents for enterprises and law firms). Second-time founder; previous AI asset management company acquired by TIAA. Built Norm Law LLP — a licensed law firm powered by AI agents — to vertically integrate legal workflow automation. Raised $120M Series C at $1.2B led by Coastal Ventures.

dena shakir

Partner at Lux Capital focusing on frontier tech and AI. Led Lux's first GCC investment (101, applied AI for critical infrastructure). Tracks sovereign AI, diaspora talent flows, and deployment advantages in the Gulf.

tyler cosgrove

Tyler Cosgrove is guest hosting this episode of TBPN, filling in for regular co-host Jordi Hays. He contributes analysis on AI model releases, business models, and geopolitical dynamics.

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“who loses if this goes through? Who should be upset about this? It's probably the merchants, Visa, and Mastercard... Visa and Mastercard would lose some leverage over US debit”
—tyler cosgrove
now playing · $V · $MA
$SKHY···bullish· mediumtyler cosgrove
SK Hynix NASDAQ IPO: pure AI memory play at 7x earnings despite cyclical fears
SK Hynix leads in HBM and is a key Nvidia partner; its US listing gives American investors direct access to the purest AI infrastructure play, but memory cyclicality keeps the mul…
$FI···neutral· mediumtyler cosgrove
Big bank consortium eyes Fiserve debit networks (Star, NYCE) to vertically rebundle payments and challenge Visa/Mastercard
JPM, BofA, Wells, PNC exploring purchase of Fiserve's debit rails to capture more economics post-Durbin Amendment; merchants and card networks lose leverage, while vertical rebund…
$V···bearish· mediumtyler cosgrove
Visa and Mastercard face structural threat as big banks build own debit rails via Fiserve acquisition
Bank-owned debit networks (Star, NYCE) would let issuers route volume off Visa/Mastercard rails, capturing interchange and reducing network leverage; the vertical rebundling trend…
$MA···bearish· mediumtyler cosgrove
Mastercard faces same structural threat as Visa from bank-owned debit network consortium
Same thesis as Visa: big bank consortium buying Fiserve's Star/NYCE networks enables issuers to bypass Mastercard rails, capturing economics and reducing network power in US debit.
$AMERICAN-TURBINESbullish· medium· posjohn malhone
American Turbines: 1MW natural gas turbines in a pickup truck — US energy advantage meets manufacturing scale
The US has uniquely cheap, abundant natural gas; American Turbines builds 1MW turbines small enough for rapid deployment, betting that manufacturing automation — not turbine IP —…
$1001-AIbullish· medium· posdena shakir
Lux Capital leads $30M Series A in 101: sovereign applied AI for the GCC from a Scale alum
The GCC offers a greenfield deployment environment for applied AI with massive, multi-billion dollar contracts accessible to a homegrown team; 101's founder (ex-Scale) attracts to…
$SUPER-COMbullish· high· poshussein fazal
super.com raises $65M Series D at $1.2B: savings super app for everyday Americans
super.com compounds 90% performance marketing across fragmented savings verticals (hotels, gas, insurance, pharma, cash advance, credit building) targeting sub-$100k households; A…
$NORM-AIbullish· high· posjohn nay
Norm AI raises $120M Series C at $1.2B: vertical AI law firm automating Big Law workflows
Norm AI vertically integrates AI agents with a licensed law firm (Norm Law LLP) to capture the full legal workflow — from in-house teams (Blackstone, New York Life) to outside cou…