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20VC

How to Build a $100M Growth Engine: Lessons from Wispr Flow & Superhuman | Matt Swulinski

2026-08-15 · 11 company · 21 thematic
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harry stebbings

Founder of 20VC (The Twenty Minute VC), one of the most popular venture-capital podcasts, and its associated fund.

matt swulinski

Matt Swulinski is a growth leader who scaled Wispr Flow and Superhuman using paid acquisition, UGC creator programs, and AI-driven marketing operations; now Head of Growth at Victor.com.

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“Uh definitely Google um in terms of >> that is in traditional SEO. >> Uh Google ads. >> Yeah, Google ads. Uh Google ads was is still the the main driver just uh and what's surprising across literally everything, right?”
—matt swulinski

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