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▶ 91:00 · $V · $MA · Visa/Mastercard network effects remain durable; stablecoins may disrupt agent-mediated payments not consumer
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The Anatomy of Ramp's Hyper-Growth | Karim Atiyeh Interview

2025-10-21 · 6 company · 4 thematic
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karim atiyeh
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“the worst idea you could have had for the last 50 years is try to beat Visa at its own game. Like it's network effects too strong... if you believe in a world where the individuals themselves are less involved in making the payments and yo…”
—karim atiyeh
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