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▶ 66:06 · Enterprise AI Adoption · Enterprises shift from renting APIs to owning customized intelligence; build-vs-buy inflection at scale
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20VC

Are OpenAI & Anthropic Overvalued? The Open-Source AI Reality with Fireworks AI, Lin Qiao

2026-07-20 · 12 company · 8 thematic
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lin qiao

Lin Qiao (Lynn Quo) founded Fireworks AI after 7 years at Meta (Facebook) where she worked on distributed systems and databases. She started the company at age 48 after deliberately building leadership skills. Fireworks provides a specialized intelligence platform for model customization and inference, processing 40T+ tokens/day with $800M ARR.

harry stebbings

Founder of 20VC (The Twenty Minute VC), one of the most popular venture-capital podcasts, and its associated fund.

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