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▶ 10:04 · Advanced Manufacturing · European battery startups failing due to systemic design-process-equipment mismatches, not scale alone
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In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen

Robin Zeng - Founder and CEO of CATL | In Good Company | Norges Bank Investment Management

2024-09-18 · 2 company · 6 thematic
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nicolai tangen

Nicolai Tangen is the CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund, one of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds. He hosts the podcast 'In Good Company' where he interviews leaders across various fields.

robin zeng

Founded CATL in 2011 after 25 years in lithium-ion battery industry; built company to 37.5% global EV battery market share with 21,000 R&D engineers; focuses on electrochemical innovation, energy storage, and zero-carbon transition.

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