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▶ 12:44 · $CANVA · Canva cofounder details AI transition: 90% cost reduction via proprietary models, template-first UX
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Canva cofounder and COO Cliff Obrecht in conversation with John Collison

2026-08-25 · 2 company · 18 thematic
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cliff obrecht

Cliff Obrecht co-founded Canva in 2013 with his wife Melanie Perkins and serves as COO. He led Canva from a school yearbook startup in Perth to a global visual communication platform with 200M+ users, navigating the transition to an AI-native product and business model.

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“we needed to get that cost down and we've managed to do that by about 90%, which means um we can really sort of scale it up now... we really don't think the prompt box is the right vector for creating visual content... It's template first,…”
—cliff obrecht
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